A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 10:51

Bought this via an auction
According to the seller it was build in 1961 and got a complete overhaul. Because I trusted the site Catawiki which stated several times it was a 1961 1960's strat copy I ended up buying it.

However someone pointed out after I was waiting for delivery that this was not a 1961 (I should have done my home work I guess) but an 85/86 however it started to get funny when he asked for the serial.

The only thing I can find is a name on the neckplate which I can't make out and he was totally surprised that there was no Tremelo but s hardtail top that was there from the start probably. Unless the guitar of course had a complete refinish job and the tremelo was removed and filled up professionally which I think is out of question with a guitar like this. Also because the bridge seems to not be a tremelo bridge but an original hardtail

He told me put it on here for you guys to judge
Do we have something special here ?
It does sound and plays amazing.



Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 10:52

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Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
SPA, 02.01.2020, 10:57

Need more photos,aspecially without pickguard and neck

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 11:50

I don't really feel comfortable taking it fully apart at the moment.
But can do that when we replace the pods in a few weeks

You can't see anything like this ?

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Gess, 02.01.2020, 12:52

на йолану страт гриф лидстара приколхозили чтоль?
1961 год насмешил

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 13:05

Sorry i get a really weird translation from Google.
Could you post in English ?

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Cdur, 02.01.2020, 13:51



Our colleaque has indicated his doubts about 1961 year and suggested it could be a combination of Jolana Strat's body and Musima Leadstar's neck

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 13:58

Didn't the jolana strats had different mounts on the back for the through body strings. Plus I thought they were delivered with two humbuckers and a straight in jack instead of three singles and an angled input ?

However I'm far from knowledgeable I have to add

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Cdur, 02.01.2020, 14:22

You can read also the useful article devoted to Musima LeadStar [link] - hopefully, the translation by Google will be readable.

As well as another article [link]

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 14:30

I found some info in English also.
But none are talking about a fixed bridge indeed.
Feel like I'm on a quest to find out what this thing is.

The auction site is also working on my complaint but I don't really feel like sending it back of they say I can. Although I probably paid too much for the state it's in it's a very interesting guitar and sounds very good. Plus it's much more playable that the cheap squiers to be honest.

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Cdur, 02.01.2020, 14:45

You're right that Musima is expected to be mire interesting than Squier, especially taking into consideration the remark made in the 1st article mentioned above, that there is so big number of modifications of the LeadStars that there is no option to install a kind of "how it should be" masterpiece...

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 14:59

It does feel very good and strat like.
I have a 96 sonic blue USA malmsteen strat and it feels in that category where a squier just feels cheap. So I'm pleasantly surprised. Also with the sounds.

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Volk174, 02.01.2020, 17:21

ничче не пойму. ну вас...

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Volk174, 02.01.2020, 18:15

все что было до "лид стара" знаю, держал в руках, дальше - "темный лес" - пол...

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 19:15

Please try English?

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Gess, 02.01.2020, 19:26

Please, make fotos under pickguard. And under nekcplate. I think it body of jolana. But i never see jolana strat in this color.

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 02.01.2020, 19:52

I'll take it apart in a few weeks when I change the pods

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Big Beat, 03.01.2020, 18:02

Frank, your guitar is definitely not 1961, because Musima only built Strat copies in the 1980s. It has also definitely been modified, or possibly put together from parts of different instruments. But to tell exactly how it has been altered, we need to see detailed pics of it disassembled.

If it plays well as is, just enjoy it for what it is. But I don't think it's anything rare or special, just a nice Strat copy with Musima parts, or a modified Musima.

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 03.01.2020, 21:15

I'll post some images when we do the pods.

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 05.01.2020, 13:07

Ok guys, I did a little write up and backstory plus too the whole guitar apart and took images.

I'm very curious to hear what you guys think.
[link]


Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Gess, 05.01.2020, 16:05

кишки родные 146%
тушка вроде тоже
под машинку бы глянуть. или действительно, на заводе баловались.

кста, чувак классный фотограф. посмотрел с удовольствием.

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 05.01.2020, 17:16

Appreciate the effort but please in English

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
Cdur, 05.01.2020, 17:34

Translation into English:

"Details inside are original ones for 146%
The body looks to be original either.
It would be interesting to watch under the tremolo machine, - but it could be indeed that the manufacturing plant played some funny things.

By the way, the author is a cool photographer, it was my pleasure to watch his photos!"



Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 05.01.2020, 17:42

146% as in sure it's original?

Some people claimed it would be a Hondo build guitar but I don't believe that seeing at that time we still had the wall up. Also why would a factory that build themselves buy from Japan or Korea .

Mystery stays the name on the plate
Why no serial numbers, this would mean the very first batch (right?)
And the fixed bridge which according to someone never was made.

Anyway I don't think I overpayed with 113.00 right?
(Eventually the seller refunded me 100.00 because the description was not right and the promised overhaul was not done.

Never was so intrigued by an instrument

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 05.01.2020, 17:45

I guess 146% point towards the elections
I googled it. Fun expression.

So we could say everything is probably original musima ?

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 05.01.2020, 20:18

Via Facebook we also found another hardtail so at least there were two

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
E75, 06.01.2020, 12:05

Lead Star hardtail... could be a real thing bearing in mind that Lead Star was exported in UK under Marlin logo (beating others in sales). No one believed in Akkord’s existence years ago. So why not?

Re: A very weird musima lead star one ?
, 06.01.2020, 12:27

Well we have found at least one other hardtail. So as far as we know now.

First batch. All original and a semi rare hardtail
I guess